[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="381" id="3077922"]Well, you've come to the wrong understanding because I actually do believe everything I said I believe. [/quote]Therein lies the problem then. I am not sure your science is up to date though. But I am not playing this game of ‘how stupid can one sound’ anymore especially with people who are intellectually dishonest … to me (us) … and to themselves [video]http://youtu.be/AcO4TnrskE0[/video]
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="1136" id="3077809"] It's essential if you reject the concept of a knowable God in contact with mankind that you fully reject it --or you are left at a point where you have to consider your entire worldview is flawed and not complete. I think this is why atheists are so adamant on the point.[/quote]How many times do we (I) have to tell you what atheism means to an atheist ... you can guess till your heart’s content and you
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="1121" id="3077319"]I'll address the individual issues you all bring up in a bit. Probably later tonight[/quote]Lots of luck ... but I think you only provide more fodder in these feeble attempts to do exactly what I know not??? Maybe a little more research into the existing (forever now) opposing arguments ... would at least give you some kind of reasonable perspective. [quote who="myfist0" reply="1122" id="3077324"]myfist0[/quote]Sort of puts things int
[quote who="Jafo" reply="1119" id="3077314"]Ah.... Chariots of the Gods..... the SCIENCE [fiction] answer to GOD.[/quote]Personally, I like this one better, hahaha Ancient Aliens Season 1 Episode 2(FULL) [quote who="SivCorp" reply="1121" id="3077319"]Personally, I don't see an exact age that can be calculated, but I do think that h
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="1110" id="3077140"]Also you have to back up your claim that the aboriginals were there for 70,000 years[/quote]This one works for me and was exactly one button away. Do you really feel every number needs to be referenced??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginals_of_Australia Everything in Christianity is based on Jewish folklore and culture (or against it) ... or
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="1106" id="3077057"]I do it all the time and so do many others.[/quote]My point ... this is not the place for it ... this is an open forum and none of us has the authority to say just stop so I can be heard. If you want to discuss god on pretext alone ... well I guess that is what you have been doing, but I suggest you start a religious post 'All about god ... and nothing else ” ... I am sure I won't be visiting ... just because. You ha
SivCorp; all you seem to want to do is trash evolution, as if that would somehow prove god exists to the rest of us … it cannot … it wouldn’t. Most seem to know that evolution has absolutely nothing to do with god … but the real intelligential are not so gullible as to try and combine the two. As intelligent as you like to appear, I will form my views from published and peer reviewed ‘experts’ with a reputation for the truth … not a notoriety who
I agree the full interview leaves a better taste in one’s mouth. But I don’t think one has to look any further than this for the reasoning … “Ginsburg was appointed by President Bill Clinton and took the oath of office on August 10, 1993.” But it does seem this view is shared with much of the world. <a title="'We the People’ Loses Appeal With People Around the World" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/us/we-the-people-lose
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="1098" id="3076945"]I'm pretty much out of the "discussion" here (for obvious reasons) but I think it's inappropriate for a moderator to suggest a person stop posting (with a suggestion to be careful or be at risk of a ban) because he disagrees with their statements on a personal level and then ends with "move on".[/quote]The only reason to stay out is because you cannot support your case (no big deal) ... or you have given up once again. The religious see
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="1089" id="3076589"]SivCorp[/quote]If there is something constructive you would like to actually say … don’t let me stop you any longer, hahaha. Braggadocio doesn’t impress me in the least … and your language with your choice of words pretty much tells me how much sense I would be able to make out of your ‘sense’ … being that I haven’t seen any here yet. I don’t know what you think you are, but maybe you will
[quote who="Flakey101" reply="2" id="3075539"]The USA constitution was ground breaking when drafted, but as mentioned it is now the oldest written one still working. It a bit dated, and it shows some times[/quote]Food for thought here: We have four options; 1. Support the Constitution, 2. Amend the Constitution, 3. Replace it with something else or 4. Continue to ignor it and just BAU. I don't know about you, but for me ... this breed of corrupt politicians could only concoct more ga
Smoothseas; from what I read, there are over ten thousand clergy from different Christian denominations who have spoken out against ID because it undermines gods presumed role … and equates him to little more than a cosmic architect. There is no logic and very little common sense in what is going on here, but there sure is a lot of bellyaching for sure. It just seems typical that when most of the arguments for creationism fall apart as they must, the ‘believers’ always reve
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="474" id="3076119"]Go for it. Totally different discussion since what you originally stated was all about Afghanistan.[/quote]Is ok. I just started talking about the drugs in Afghanistan first is all. At least we can safely proceed then. Geeze, got to start somewhere ... I just wasn't sure where it was going to go so I didn't say more. Is it your opinion then that the USG (through proxies in the least) are not capitalizing big time on the illegal Afghan d
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="366" id="3076128"]In the name of academic freedom and wanting to help students to understand the full range of scientific views , ID theory should be taught as well.[/quote]OK, I'll bite (woe is me) ... what would an ID curriculum look like? If they are not even willing to tell the truth about their own objectives ... what are they going to teach OUR children???
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="1084" id="3076171"]If a God exists, It transcends human concepts of "religion"...as well as human concepts about whether or not it can exist or is the figment of someone's imagination.[/quote]I like the proof implied with the first word. Nice and solid … and typically religious. [quote who="SivCorp" reply="1083" id="3076127"]If there is a God, he would be above religion, beyond religion. Religion is simply behavior modification and control.[/qu
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="472" id="3076029"]Smoothseas[/quote]Guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I am not even sure we are talking about the same thing here anymore. Maybe it would help to drop the word "Afghanistan" from the center of the discussion (it might help you) and center it on the illegal "drugs" issue because that goes way beyond the Contra affair and the war in Afghanistan by far ... we might get back to the same page at least??? As far as the crossing of lines go,
[quote who="SivCorp" reply="1070" id="3076045"]If "god" is a human construct, is it a defect of human nature then? And if it is, how come it hasn't been "evolved" away, like by natural selection and such? It seems from the time of human’s ability to communicate, there has always been a strong focus on a deity. Interesting, no?[/quote]No ... if you had a saber tooth tiger on your posterior approach often enough ... you would eventually think of something to cover your mental arse cal
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="1072" id="3076058"]Smoothseas[/quote]Right so ... just as ChungasRevenge said right ... humm ... well you got me there ... is that what you said too … I mean in other words?
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="1066" id="3075970"]There is a lot more we don't know about reality than what we do at present.[/quote]How much we currently 'know' is very much (seemingly?) at issue ... and how much we don't know ... well who really gives a flying fart until we do, huh??? Guess work is left to the theologians. ChungasRevenge; A right to the point man ... I like that!!! We could use a little more of that.
Rightwinger; Let’s recap then … The lion's share of hate always appears to come from the 'other side’; otherwise there wouldn't be another 'side'. [quote]Now, I really have no valid opinion on the subject[/quote]Ok so far. [quote]in the words of the great country music legend/drag queen icon Dolly Parton[/quote]Humm, I don't think you like drag queens either. [quote]And besides, I really don't think it's my place to judge them.[/quote
[quote who="Rightwinger" reply="83" id="3075998"]Sorry, folks; my father-in-law passed away here a couple weeks or so ago, and I haven't gotten back here. I'll get to it. Sorry.[/quote]Sorry to hear that ... death is seldom welcome, condolences. My cousin in under the care of hospice at home now and is not given very many days to live. He was a Christian when we were close (so was I though) so I can only hope he is at peace.
Smoothseas; we have run into this problem before... The line in the sand was crossed many years ago IMO ... you do not seem to have crossed it yet (???)? You are starting to sound quarrelsome with things like "I don't blame the entire USG for it" and such. I thought we (I was) talking drugs here? You like whistle blowers ... did you look at myfist0's clip ... drugs indeed. I believe the USG is in charge of the USG etc., etc. ... but we know how semantics can be used to make it seem ot
myfist0; Geeze … this is much more complex than I realized. Amazing how the same names keep popping up at the worlds illegal drugstores. No patriot likes to have to even consider that their leaders are anything but what they pretend to be but doubts and questions arise over time … this doubt has to creep in in stages … not all at once. But there has to be a catalyst that begins the process, a certain line has to be crossed, but once that door is opened … it is amaz
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="466" id="3075934"]We did not invade Afghanistan because their heroin trade was dwindling.[/quote]I guess it was ill worded, my statement ... but still, I don't see how you could jump to a conclusion like this. I am just as well aware of why we said we went there ... as much as most anyway. I thought I was just talking drugs ... not policy. I am also aware of the fact that the stated reasons were not reflective of the actual reasons ... as in
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="34" id="3070218"]I watch a lot of his stuff. He is very good at calling things how he sees it. The question is whether his solutions are good or not or even more so whether he could deliver on them. He won't have the congress to do much of anything in the first place?[/quote]We have been playing this political game forever. Would have, could have or should have … and this leads us to where we are now … nowhere. The mind set in our government is
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