Only the Holy Spirit can work on Lula. I'm just a messenger. I've been talking to Lula for years. She only wants the RCC's truth. She can't disengage her belief/faith in her church from what the Word of God says. When she sticks with just scripture we get along fine, but she goes time and time again to her RCC commentaries that are leading her away, not closer to the truth. I think the RCC has done a ton of damage thru the years and
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[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="284" id="3019855"]o Catholics the Lord's Day is sanctified by hearing Holy Mass and also by giving time to other devotions, resting, doing activities which help build friendship with others, and especially in the family circle.[/quote] and do you actually believe Catholics adhere to this? Let me tell you the point of your RCC Catechism. The whole point is to get people to come to church to collect their money. That's
So I asked you this: [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="284" id="3019855"]Show me anywhere in the NT where it says that we are to Keep the "Lord's Day."[/quote] and you gave me what? [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="284" id="3019855"]Acts 20:7 ,"And on the first day of the week, when we were assembled to break bread, Paul discoursed with them...." 1Cor. 16:1-2, "now concerning the collections that are made for the saints; as I given order to the churc
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="278" id="3019774"]I believe Titus 2:9 of the NT does in fact condone slavery so what gives.[/quote] It's not so much as condoning as it is addressing the relationships between slaves and masters; how they should be treated. We can transfer much of this relationship subject to the work place today between employer and employee. The principles are the same. You didn't mention Col 3:22-4:1 but you might want to read that lit
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="279" id="3019785"]There is not one scrap of factual evidence from the historical records of MAN that proves that anything at all in the OT ever took place … in the real world.[/quote] of course there is. They're digging up artifacts all over the place. They've got coins, pottery, inscriptions all that point to the OT narratives. And I've heard it said that only 1% of Israel has been excavated so far. Israel is an
another thought... Paul was like Moses of the Old Testament. Like Moses who was raised up to deliver the Israelites from bondage, so too Paul, was sent to set the people free from the bondage of the Old Covenant.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="274" id="3019472"]I guess it won't surprise you that I disagree with some of this and the reason is that the Third Commandment of the Old Law goes to Natural or Moral Law and that part of it can not be changed or abrogated for it's one of God's unchangeable commandments. I think we may disagree over what "keep holy" means. "Remember thou keep holy the Sabbath day" was partly moral, the natural law, obliging all men to de
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="256" id="3018612"]Hebraic Judaism was God's holy revealed religion. It had both written and oral Tradition as its deposit of the Jewish Faith and so too does Christ's New Testament religion. Like it or not, accept it or not....that's just the way it is.[/quote] and Jesus condemned their oral tradition all over the gospels. That's what I'm saying about the RCC. Just like the religious leaders of Judaism ha
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="256" id="3018612"]The Bible does in fact state that some of Christ's teachings were committed to Tradition, that is His teachings were transmitted and handed down by the Apostles orally. "Stand firm, and hold the traditions you have learned, whether by word or of letters of ours ". 2Thess. 2:51. "And we charge you, brethren, in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ, to withdr
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="253" id="3018575"]We both know the Bible does not make sense at all[/quote] no we don't. Why doesn't it make sense? Have you read it? Studied it at any length? [quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="253" id="3018575"]I just thought it brought up some very interesting things; you know negative things which you glossed over very nicely[/quote] What did I gloss over? I told you upfront I only watched the beginning
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="243" id="3017908"]10 Reasons Why the Bible is Repulsive[/quote] All I had to do was listen to the first section about breaking the 4th commandment (Sabbath) to know that this is someone who has NO clue about what the bible says. If you're listening to this stuff, and believing it, it's because you wish to be deceived. It's tickling your ears. They are saying what you wish to hear. The bible, on the othe
Even Steve Jobs who died recently and believed wholeheartedly that there was no God did say in August, just before his death, that he was thinking more and more about God and was coming closer to belief. He wanted to believe that there was more to life than this. I challenge people all the time, don't wait that long. It most likely, will be too late. You may not even get that time at all. Give God one year. One year, now, while i
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="242" id="3017805"]I don't know what sect of Christianity KFC belongs to but it seems logical to me that it might actually be more valid.[/quote] I'm a biblical Christian with a Christian worldview. Basic. Reformed. Usually I just say I'm a Christian because in the end it has nothing to do with denomination. But for clarity if I were to label myself I'd go with a Reformed Baptist label. Back to basics, strippi
it's NOT about Religion. It's about having a relationship with our Creator. There are many, many, many who are religious but lost. That was what Christ was saying all thru the gospels. Just take a good look at Matt 23 and see all the woes directed at the religious in His day. It's all about truth vs tradition. Lula what you are espousing is religious tradition. It's men vs God. I know you are very sincere
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="82" id="3009013"]A "prayer to" is a "petition to". When Catholics "pray to" the Blessed Mother or another Saint in Heaven, we are actually petitioning her or them to interecede to God on our behalf or to pray for us. It's not a "prayer to" them directly and that's it, but rather it is a "prayer to" God through them.[/quote] But Jesus taught us how to pray. Why are you not listening to Him? Not only that he showed us in John 17 which
I just read this while studying for my bible lesson this week. It was written by JC Ryle, a preacher in the 1800's. "Let us note that a half knowledge of Scripture, a suppression of some texts, and a misapplicaton of other texts will account for a large portion of mistakes in religion. In this way people get a heresy or a crotchet into their heads on some doctrinal point, and
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="75" id="3008561"]You may not like it or agree but that proves Christ was linked with His Mother. It seems you are only concerned with the Risen Christ but know little about the Child Christ. [/quote] and that's it in a nutshell isn't it? I remember my mother saying a long time ago and one of the reasons for her leaving the RCC. They spend most of their time thinking of Christ as a baby. They either have H
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="76" id="3008566"]Yes, intercessory prayer is sanctioned in the Bible and praying to the Blessed Virgin is intercessory prayer. We are asking her to intercede to Jesus on our behalf. [/quote] [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="76" id="3008566"]FC, if we must always pray directly to God, as you say, and may not ask the prayers of others, why did St.Paul write to the Thessalonians, "pray for us that we may be delivered from importunate and evil men"? 2Th
and to prove (there is so much I could be here for weeks!) all this all I have to do is go to the Vatican's library itself. Tell me this isn't Mary worship?????? This is from Pope Pius IX. http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_pi09id.htm HOPED-FOR RESULTS <s
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="70" id="3007797"]FC, you were told in plain language that Catholics d o not give divine worship or adore the BVM. [/quote] [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="70" id="3007797"] We love her and are devoted to her because God honored her above all others by choosing her to be the Mother of His only begotten Son. She receives special honor from Catholics [/quote] and I told you in plain language that what
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="66" id="3007561"]You may read Scripture, but it's statements like this that prove you sure don't understand what it means or the teachings behind it. You are so intent on putting the Blessed Virgin Mary out of the Gospel picture, that you cut yourself short and miss the true Gospel meaning.[/quote][quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="66" id="3007561"]1Tim. 5:8, But if any man have not care for his own, and especially those of his OWN house, he hat
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="60" id="3006554"]By virtue of the Incarnation, Jesus Christ came to earth and was born of the Virgin Mary. You think of Christ, you think of Mary, and you think of Mary, you think of Christ.[/quote] no, this isn't right Lula. When I think of Christ I think of no one else. No one else died for my sins but HIM. He stands alone. Only HE is God incarnate. He is not to be linked with any other human (including his
oh and something else, like I said before so much I could say... Jesus had this very same argument I'm having with you. Only he had it with the Pharisees. You can find it in Matt 22:41-46 "While the Pharsees were gathered together Jesus asked them, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he? The son of David, they replied. He said to them, "How is it then that David speaking by the Spirit calls h
also...found out something about 1:35 where is says "Son of God" It is NOT found in many manuscripts. So it's actually a questionable insert to say the least and something a doctrine should NOT be built around. [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="52" id="3006046"]It would be a mortal sin for Catholics to adore the Blessed Virgin Mary and put her above God. We don't do that.[/quote] Can you show me exactly where it says in the RCC catechism that it's
[quote who="Tova7" reply="53" id="3006176"]In my experience, those things which we "can't live without" tend to be what we really worship, no matter if we think we don't.[/quote] great! So now I'm really worrying about chocolate.