Yes, Lula, the quest is to find God's True Church. You believe it is the Catholic Church (and more power to you!) I believe it is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We are both Christians, so I think we have the basic tenent covered (Acceptance of Christ as our personal savior). Others believe something completely different. That's why discussions like this are important. Not because some concensus will determine truth (since truth is truth
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Thanks Lula! Again you articulate the Catholic position very well. Not being Catholics (or even Protestants for that matter), we don't recognise the Pope's authority. Yes, Christ did call his 12 Apostles. They did hold the authority of His Priesthood. However, where does scripture tell us that they passed it to anyone. Each of them were killed or banished, with no record of them ordaining another Pope to take Peter's place. Christ did speak
Wow, Lula, thanks for that background information on Columbus! Very interesting. Thanks also for the Catholic viewpoint of the same historic events. It's always good to get more than one side of the story, and helps us gain better understanding of the "why" and "how" of things. It doesn't suprise me that you disagree with the "re-establish" part. The Catholic Church does believe that there is an unbroken line of authority from Christ to Pope B
Babylon is a state of heart, not just a city. It's more an archetypal use than a literal one. Many people have speculated on which "church" was The Great and Abominable Church, but when you think about it, everyone who fights against God fits the description.
Yes, he did come up on land much sooner than he expected, so I agree, he was mistaken in thinking it was The Spice Islands. But we learn in reading the Book of Mormon that he was lead by God. Whether he realized that or not though, we have no idea.
CHAPTER 13 The angel of the Lord showed Nephi a vision of the future. In the vision, Nephi saw the many nations and kingdoms of Gentiles that would someday fill the earth. Within the Gentile nations a “church” was formed, which was the great and abominable church that was also prophesied of by John the Revelator. This &ldquo
CHAPTER 12 Nephi is shown a vision of the future of his family. He sees that they do make it to the Promised Land and that the posterity of his family grows to great numbers (as the sand of the sea). They grew rich from the resources of the land and built cities. He also sees wars and rumors of wars among the people. He sees great slaughter and violence between his po
I take that back, we've been invited to 2.. maybe 3 funerals next week. Hopefully we won't be needed, but...
That's kind of true in the real world also. We get to decide on our words and actions, but we don't get to decide what others will think of us because of them. For instance, I might be proud of my military experience, but I know people who think being in the military means I can't think for myself and lost my individuality. No matter how much I know that neither is true, they will think what they want.
CHAPTER 11 As he was praying and thinking about the vision, Nephi was caught up in the Spirit of the Lord. He was brought to a mountain that he was pretty sure he’d never been to before. The Spirit asked him what he desires. Nephi told the Spirit that he wanted to see the vision that Lehi spoke of. The Spirit asked Nephi if he truly believed that his fat
So now you're against equality for women?
I think it is within most of us to want to know the why of things; however some are driven by it more than others. I also think that we're supposed to ask why for most things (even spiritual things). Yes, we are told that faith is a necessary part of spiritual growth, but I also think that if we rely completely on faith, we miss both the point and the opportunity to grow. For instance, I think that we are supposed to take the scriptures as being the word of God on faith,
Yes, there is within many of us (probably most of us) the need to learn the "why" of things. However, I didn't say the "why" is never important, I only asked if there was a need to know the "why" of everything. I'll use a scientific example here. We know that what we call gravity exists as a force. We have even learned to quantify its effects on matter. However, we have no idea what it is, or why it does what it does. It is important enough to for physic
CHAPTER 9 1 And all these things did my father see, and hear, and speak, as he dwelt in a tent, in the a valley of Lemuel, and also a great many more things, which cannot be written upon these plates. &nbs
No matter how up in arms we get by day, political opposities should be able to get together later to enjoy time together.
For the good or the bad of it, emotion is what gets things done. Apathy gets in the way of getting things done. Do people who don't care bother voting? Not until somone gives them a reason to care. When someone quits caring, they quit voting. But there is a lot of good in what you have to say here. Emotion is what gets things done, but only each of us can decide what to feel, and how to respond to it. Yes, when Prs. Bush said that he knew the McCa
I'm a member of the Patriot Guards, we are a group that gets between the Phelpsians and the funeral. I haven't participated in an operation yes, since no funerals have been violated in Wisconsin (yet).. Thank the Lord! I think this is a great, private citizen, asnwer to the Phelpsian problem. Private Citizens acting in the best interest of other private citizens. ~~~~ Dr Guy: Interesting idea, except for one thing. If the "leases" are offered to
CHAPTER 8 Lehi’s dream is among the most quoted and retold stories in the Book of Mormon. It’s as well known to most Latter-Day Saints as the stories of Adam and Eve and Noah’s Ark to most of the Western World. In a vision, Lehi sees an angel in white. The angel leads him through a “dark and dreary waste”, after what seemed like hours, Lehi pr
CHAPTER 6 Since Chapter 6 is so short (only 6 verses) and covers topics already covered in the first 5 chapters and the title page, I’m just going to cut and past the chapter and move on to Chapter 7. 1 And now I, Nephi, do not give the genealogy of my fathers in a <a title="2 Ne. 4: 15." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/
CHAPTER 5 4 And it had come to pass that my father spake unto her, saying: I know that I am a a visionary man; for if I had not seen the things of God in a b <a title="1 Ne. 1: 8 (8-13); 1 Ne. 3: 18 (17-18); TG Vision." href="http://scriptures.lds
BFD: Unlike the bullet, we'll get through it. ;~D
Right now we're around 600bc, right before the fall of Israel to Babylon.
CHAPTER 4 Nephi talks his brothers into going back into Jerusalem to get the brass plates from Laban. He tells them that this is an opportunity for them to show the strength of faith Moses showed in leading the children of Israel through the parted Red Sea. Nephi reminded them that God was able to free their ancestors from bondage, so why wouldn’t God be strong e
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