kestrel925

Join Date 02/2010

Relationship Status Explanation

Can someone explain what the various elements of relationship status mean, and how to interpret the "Their relationship with you is ___" and "Your relationship with them is ___"? I'm confused about some aspects.

I've figured out some of the elements through trial and error, but a full guide on what they mean / how to control them would be really useful.

The list is:

Diplomatic Inclination
Racial Inclination
Adjacent Territory
Missions
Mission Rejections
Fleet Strength
Military Actions
Diplomatic Actions
Resources Given
Envoy Bonuses
Research Bonus
AI Relationship Bonus

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I also would like an explanation for how the duality to relationships works.

I have been somewhat successful in maintaining good relationships from only one side (Their relationship to me). I have not been able to improve my relationship to them.

Do they need to complete MY missions?

Do they need to give ME resources?

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I'll give it a go

I'll mark things im not certain on with italics

Diplomatic Inclination: might be based on fleet strength (too strong to fight so we'll coooperate)

Racial Inclination: +1 if same race -1 or -2 if others

Adjacent Territory: proximity to their emipire, further away is better

Missions: increase from completing missions max of +3

Mission Rejections: reduction from rejecting their missions

Fleet Strength: large fleets negatively impact this, small fleets positively impact this

Military Actions: things like helping them win battles or not helping

Diplomatic Actions: giving pacts

Resources Given: bonus from donating resources outside of missions

Envoy Bonuses: relationship generated from envoys

Research Bonus: researched diplomacy stuff

AI Relationship Bonus: dont' know

Do they need to complete MY missions?

Do they need to give ME resources?

Yes, just give them simple missions like "kill x ships of player abc" when they are already fighting player abc's ships, instead of the stupid "kill x civillian buildings of playeriveneverevenseen" that they spam you with

If you give them resource missions i think you have to give something back because they just reject if there is nothing in it for them, and don't forget to target yourself

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My opinion:

Diplomatic Inclination: a random number between around -2 and +2 rolled at the start... as it says it's their inclination to diplomacy, and it's not linked to race or fleet etc. also it's not changing

Fleet Strength: from my observations, having larger fleet actually increases this number... i think it's: small fleet ->he can be crushed easily, then why do we bother with diplomacy vs large fleet ->he is a force to reckon with, let's parlay

Military actions: killing their enemies /anyone they have low relationship/ increases this

I agree with the other points though, although it would be best if some dev came around and enlighten everyone.

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Well Diplomacy is bugged to hell in my opinion. diplomatic inclination is quite stupid as its randomly suggesting motivations to peace or not.

As i see it atm if i have a small fleet i have a negative relation with ai's but if i have an over powered fleet its set to 0. To me that seems backwards.

Military actions is poor too as i have recieved missions to attack an ai's friend when i do i get a bad relation hit for attacking their ally and good relationship bonus for doing it. Whats the point?

To get the ai to like you, you need to send them on missions but you have a super high amount of resources to give as a bonus for completing it but when they fail nothing happens, no relationship hit. If i requested resources, say i wanted 50 cystal id have to pay 4000 cred as a bonus that dont seem fair.

Plus you should be able to make pacts with more than 1 ai. Like i said Diplomacy is bugged to hell, wish i never bought it. Stick to entrenchment.

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Oh wow... I remember I broke this down when the forum went nuts and then my post was stolen by gremlins.... Anyway:

Relationships are built in two parts. The first 10.00 points come from everything aside from envoy bonuses. Envoy bonuses grant an additional 10.00 points, up to the maximum of 20.00. This means envoys are absolutely necessary to form pacts. It also means your partners need at least 7 planets in their control to reach 20.00 points.

Diplomatic Inclination - A random number assigned each game to represent the overall willingness of a faction to engage in diplomacy. From -2 to +2
Racial Inclination - +1 for the same race, -1 for any other combination aside from -2 for the TEC and Advent(who hate each other). Can be nullified with a tier 7 research tech.
Adjacent Territory - This is a penalty for seizing planets near your partner. Give them room to grow and they'll like you.
Missions - Up to a +3 for completing missions. Drops as you fail missions.
Mission Rejections - Represents a random chance of a relationship drop for rejecting missions. More likely for factions that are just ambivalent toward you. Chance goes up if you repeatedly reject missions.
Fleet Strength - A penalty for having a smaller fleet than the other person. They figure, why bother with this weakling.
Military Actions - One of the major long term shifters of relationship. Negative points for attacking their units or structures, positive for attacking their enemies.
Diplomatic Actions - Bonuses for forming peace treaties and pacts and whatnot. IIRC it can drop of you rescind the benefits or go to war. This is the other long term shifter since you can get 20.00 points toward your first 10.00 points available.
Resources Given - Goes up to +3 with the right tech researched, drops over time back to 0.00. Useful for establishing a quick ceasefire after completing a mission for an ambivalent faction.
Envoy Bonuses - You get up to +1.50 for each planet with your envoys present. The cap is the same regardless of the number of envoys at a planet, though IIRC the rate will go up faster with multiple envoys.
Research Bonus - Up to +3 for the associated tier 1, 2, and 3 techs available to all factions
AI Relationship Bonus - Not too sure on this one, but I think it is a bonus for human players who get the stingy AI to like them(aside from Envoy bonuses). Give them easy missions they're already working on, such as 'destroy ships'.

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I have not been able to improve my relationship to them.

"Their relationship with you is ___" and "Your relationship with them is ___"? I'm confused about some aspects.

Again, can anybody address the specific questions quoted here?

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To my knowledge, the AI bonus is something that all human players have with AI players. It automatically brings the human's inclination statistic up to 100% with them so they can forge any treaties or alliances available so long as the AI player is willing to reciprocate. This also means that AIs still need envoys to get pacts with you.

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