All I can say is this world as it stands now is in big trouble, you need something to believe in......some kinda hope

I've always seen religion as something to hold on to when things you can't explain happens, and also for keeping some sort of belief that there's more to life than just the life itself. Like a hope that you won't go away forever when you die. But that's exactly what I believe. Nothing can scientificly proof that there's something after death, we just wish there is, so there's a meaning to life. I'm one of those who thinks death is like eternal sleep, it's like regular sleep but you'll never wake up again. It's kind of sad, but I really think that's it.

Through history religion has caused most sufferance in form of wars, slaughter, terror, etc. 9/11 and 3/11 in Madrid are good examples of this. It's pure hate driven by a progressive religion - not saying the entire religion is like this, but the extreme over-interpreted. And unfortunately there seems to be a lot who sympathize with the latter. I'm gonna compare religion to sport fanatics. There are usually 2 teams that are "the big ones". Here in Denmark it's soccer/football and the 2 teams Brondby vs. FC Copenhagen. There's always trouble at a game and they always end up beating each other up, people get arrested, bitten by police dogs and so on. But only between those who seeks it proactive. I see it as choosing side, choosing what's the wrong or right team to cheer for. It's the same with religion, it's about how you should live your live. There are different ideologies, and some take it to the extreme in their "crusade" to persuade people that this is the only right path to choose. Seeing how it goes on at a football game, and how stupid fans can behave, it's no wonder to me that religion has caused so much death and fear, even though it should bring hope and joy to those who belive.

Whats nine times six?

... That would be 54 CerebroJD, my good man

... twelve more than 42

I also think this post should be closed

I think it is extremely inappropiate discussing religion on a skinning site in fact i think it is inappropiate to discuss it on ANY forum unless its a "religious" forum
also it upsets people who dont do that religion
IT is also very very WEIRD to rendomly start start a thread about religion
It seems to me that you are just trying to stir up trouble or somthing (although that is just my opinion others reserve the right to think otherwise )

I believe the human race has a long way to go before it matures enough to accept responsibility for it's actions instead of leaning on fairy tales to be the source of good and evil.

Until such time as human beings face the fact that we create reality individually and collectively we are going to be killing each other over tennis shoes, cars, money, drugs, land, sex, war, and religion.

To all of you-Bolderdash and Wilted Snapdragons! >

Wreckless...obviously you've never read Douglas Adams' 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'.

This is a Hijack!

Im feeling pretty lazy, so I am not about to check cause I most likely, certainly wrong. Isn't the answer 4? Maybe some other go getter will prove me wrong.

3.14 . thats my religion.

Believe in yourself is all you need.
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i believe,,,,you can believe in what ever gives you hope and peace of mind to get through each day ....what i dont care for are those who feel the uncontrolable need to push their views on others . believe how ya want, but DONT try to force your views on me .... religion is a personal experience...what i do hope is that, on my death bed there will something more than just nothing. those who want to deny us hope of an after life, seem to have the need to drag others in to their despair of hopelessness.... mysery loves company .....

ohh and orion .. if ya actually read the bible you would see it states we were created in his image/likeness.. not that we were created in his exact form....if that were true i know a few who would have been blinked from exhistance long ago

oh and the truth ????? truth is not an exacting science...truth is bent with preception . so this threads "TRUTH" is subjective at best .. the human mind alters fact from first contact. so even the "facts" you base your truth on are speculative .................the actual truth will never be revaled til you are dead .. then you will . know ......
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...or not.

latin4567 - check your email.

sorry sorry
Actually I though you were going to this entire thread because or how inappropriate it is to discuss religion in a place like this
(well thats just my opinion anyway) Oh and I did get the e-mail

This is an okay place to discuss just about anything you want... spamming threads however will not make them more appropriate, just more toxic.

Ah...so he DOES get emails....that's good to know....now we must convince 'im to read 'em....

Ah...so he DOES get emails....that's good to know....now we must convince 'im to read 'em....

uh oh
as latin4567 scurries to hide under a rock
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I love the title of the e-mail
Your Spam on Wincustomize
it could mean 1 of 4 things:
1. I got busted for having an opinion
2. I actually spamed
3. David K dosn't like hamburgers
4. I spamed with actual pictures of spam (Now thats an idea! )

I want to know if Hormel really thought the word 'in-fectious' was a good word to put on a food product... after seeing your spam photo latin I've been reading about spam at the Hormel website...

Did you know they make a turkey version? I wonder if it's infectious too...

I am not trying to add fuel to the fire but I have been fighting with if God does exist or not since the day I was born. And to some extent I do think God does exist. On the one hand I am still alive witch is a miracle in its self. As a kid growing up in tons of foster homes I was beaten, boiled, burned, hung with a barbed wire fence wire, survived winters in a barns when I was not allowed in the house, and almost rocked to death there are other things that I have never told any one about. I don’t know what to believe if it was a miracle or I am just one stubborn son of a b***h to kill off. And then there is are a few things that make me not believe for example, and maybe a few of you who are Christian in here could probably answer for me. We are to believe in what the bible tells us, and I started questioning this in elementary school the day I was taught the game telephone. We as humans are fallible in the way we choose hear some things and not others how am I to know that God didn’t say some thing else and this guy just wrote what he thought he heard? The other problem I am having is after Kain slew Able and he went to the city of nod were did the people of nod come from and where was the location of the city of nod? Is it not possible that since there were people already in nod that those are the people that evolved like some scientist are saying and that God created Adam and Eve? Could not both be true?

We SHOULD lock this thread - last one got really ugly really quick.

I heard the last one, something about creation vs. evolution did turn bad. I didn't read it, but I believe that as long as folks are expressing opinions and not beating each other over the head and resorting to personal attacks, there is no reason to lock this one.

looks to me like people just expressing their beliefs and disbeliefs, no one's lashed out for any reason except to complain they don't want to read it... easy solution there... dont click on on the link again...

These threads, just like any others are 'monitored'....we'll ensure they do not deteriorate....[or attempt to do so]...

Dream as someone who does believe in God (but is not very obedient) all I can say is the Bible is merely a "tool to guide and assist" some ppl say they use the Bible as a means for God to speak to their hearts, since it's apparently written in the Holy spirit, when read it can mean several diff things to each reader and their particular situation in life anyways that's what I've heard but I don't like to read books though I have tried and still try on occasions to read the Bible but for me it does no good... For me I think I hear God in an un audible way (call me crazy I don't care) hehe

If you want to find God, don't think you will find him just in a Bible or at Churches those are only "Tools" God is everywhere not just in those places... and it's a personal relationship between you and him, so don't expect your relationship to be what anyone else claims it's like for them.