WindowBlinds 11 planning

We are putting together the schedule to make WindowBlinds 11.  

Customization is a lot harder now than it used to be.  Microsoft, for reasons unknown, has actively encouraged developers to take care of their own client and even non client (border, frame) painting rather than using standard Windows controls.  

Microsoft's baffling decision to throw away trying to provide a standard set of in-app controls for developers and instead provide vague, often conflicting standards (cough, Fluent) has resulted in having less and less of the OS we can even touch.

Which is unfortunate because WindowBlinds, in theory, could actually give Windows users a consistent, OS-wide Fluent if apps weren't handling the drawing of their own UIs these days.

Still, with that in mind, there are things we can do such as skin the standard OS controls and then handle apps on a case-by-case basis.  Keep in mind though, the more non-standard apps we have to handle, the harder it is for us to keep compatibility.

Earlier this year we released Curtains which doesn't even hook into the OS.  This means it is 100% compatible. Skins, even the weirdest ones, won't break a given app.  Of course, the price is that it doesn't skin nearly as much (no client area GUI controls like scrollbars, push buttons, radio buttons, etc.).  It's done quite well.  However, we know there are still plenty of people out there who would like to have more full control over how their Windows desktop looks.

That's where this thread comes in: What would you like to see in WindowBlinds 11?  

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How about the ability to define not only a specific skin on a per-app basis, but the color palette as well?

Ie; the issue with a dark WindowBlind skin, and how it screws with the cell background colors for MS Excel.   I know that the MS office suite "does it's own thing" regarding how it displays it's UI, and while you can exclude it from WindowBlinds, it doesn't seem to protect the color palette it uses.

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I don't know if this is 100% true, but I have heard if you use open shell or classic shell while using windowsblinds it can cause big problems. I suggest making a popup in the installer warn the user.

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Nuthin wrong with Windows Blinds, it MS and their 'Our way or the Highway' tactics!!! 

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1. Give SKINSTUDIO a Major overhaul.

2. implement the Transparency Coding used for Curtains into WindowBlinds.

3. Fix the issue with Navigation Arrows (upper left) in Explorer not staying Skinned.

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When it releases, do an huge ad campaign. Ads on YouTube, sponserships, etc.

We need a bigger community imo.

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Quoting Und3rsc0r3, reply 5

When it releases, do a huge ad campaign. Ads on YouTube, sponserships, etc.

We need a bigger community imo.
WORD5*  5*  

-Most People STILL don't know that this is even possible to do to your PC :O

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bring back transparency to windows background

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I am in agreement with Skin Studio overhaul, Not very user friendly. If WB could skin browsers that would be good too. I like to recolor WB skins. If a skin could be recolored better would be a big advantage.

 

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It would be a great idea to be able to put your skin directory on a different drive. Or is that already possible and i don't know it?

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Make it so, like curtains, you can access styles online instead of having to download them using a browser.

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Two things I would very much like:  an API callable from another program to turn off WindowBlinds (now it takes a terrible hack) so that it can be automated on and off; and for WindowBlinds to reliably honor its ignore list.  Now WindowBlinds causes a program I have and use to crash even through it is in the ignore list (the program runs fine if WindowBlinds is stopped).  So I have to use the terrible hack to kill WindowBlinds in order to automatically use this one program. 

 

 

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I don't know if it has to do with Fluent Design but, anything higher than Build 21255 has really f*cked up WB!!!

How MS can fubar a perfectly decent OS in one fell swoop is beyond me!!!

(Sorry for the language but, it really p*sses me off!!!) >:(  

  

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Once we finish the next version of DeskScpaes you'll get to see a lot of what we have in mind in terms of UI design for managing WindowBlinds skins.

My personal wishlist heavily focuses on being able to just use the client skinning features. :)

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Reply #14 Top

Please work on skinning Edge titlebar.

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Hi Brad,
In my humble opinion, in the new version of Windowblinds it should remain what it works well with the current version and add what it works well with Curtains, the rest that create problems or can no longer be applied due to Microsoft's policy to be removed from Skinstudio.
Safe and simple and no big changes… We don’t want to learn from scratch how to work with a new Skinstudio...

Be safe!

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Reply #16 Top

It would be nice if the system tray icon could be hidden or, on Windows 10 at least, keep a stable position (on my machine it always places itself at the left end of all the icons, unlike the others which remember where they were placed).

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Quoting Randy31416, reply 16

It would be nice if the system tray icon could be hidden
Already there. Have you tried the setting on top in config window of Windowblinds?

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How did I miss that?  Thanks, JanOscar.

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Quoting neone6, reply 4

3. Fix the issue with Navigation Arrows (upper left) in Explorer not staying Skinned.
No fix needed, since that is caused by OldNewExplorer. Be sure to have the "Use alternate navigation buttons style" unchecked, and you'll be fine. ;-)

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Quoting neone6, reply 4

1. Give SKINSTUDIO a Major overhaul.
Make Skinstudio for Windows 10 only, but leave the current version available.

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*Large start button support again. I have noticed trying to use the vista style of start orb causes it to get cut off in windows 10.

*Blur added to explorer background like how curtains allows would also be nice.

 

*Skinning of jumplist/preview list. Startisback++ adds back the ability to use classic jumplist/preview hover images. Im sure you guys could figure out how to get those loaded with windowblinds 11.

*Skin studio to be updated to a new version that only works on windows 10. This would help with those who focus on only windows 10 skinning. There are so many things not used in 10 that would cut down on time skinning if I knew what is and is not on 10.

 

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Quoting fictitiousfellow, reply 12

I don't know if it has to do with Fluent Design but, anything higher than Build 21255 has really f*cked up WB!!!

How MS can fubar a perfectly decent OS in one fell swoop is beyond me!!!

(Sorry for the language but, it really p*sses me off!!!)   

 

WB is not compatible with Windows 10 21H1

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Quoting ALMonty, reply 14

Please work on skinning Edge titlebar.

 

All browser on Chromium is compatible with WB.

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Quoting Robert84MK, reply 23


Quoting ALMonty,

Please work on skinning Edge titlebar.



 

All browser on Chromium is compatible with WB.

Not on my machines. I’ve been trying to get to work for 2 years now. 

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Quoting fictitiousfellow, reply 12

I don't know if it has to do with Fluent Design but, anything higher than Build 21255 has really f*cked up WB!!!

How MS can fubar a perfectly decent OS in one fell swoop is beyond me!!!

(Sorry for the language but, it really p*sses me off!!!)
Quoting Robert84MK, reply 22

WB is not compatible with Windows 10 21H1
How can you expect Windowblinds to be fully compatible with beta (future & unfinished) versions of Windows?
Quoting Robert84MK, reply 23

All browser on Chromium is compatible with WB.
Wrong - again. I can't get the titlebar to skin for my Edge browser no matter what I do. Any ideas for a solution from an expert would be most welcome.

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