The Bible is not the worlds rule book or Encyclopedia

it is the #1 best seller however.

Does that mean you believe Obama is a christian?

I wonder how many are dusting up in all the motel rooms throughout the country. I never said the Bible did not contain useful or benevolent information, but if the key to saving one’s life were to be found in some other blasphemous book (whatever that might be), at least I would make it … wonder how many true believers would? I am willing to bet that most of them would too?

 Yea, I guess there is that, hehehe ... hey; at least it is a start.

obviously there's a battle raging on inside you whether you admit it or not....otherwise you wouldn't have written this.

KFC just go away and pester someone else, ok.  Stop by some time if you ever really want to talk about something constructive or intelligent. Get a real life too.

Just so you don’t have to worry about a sub-human atheist (that do for you?) rest assured I am well and rage-less (the way you mean). I do not go around attacking people and leaving trash comments on their articles. And I do not go around spreading any (your) bigotry or hatred. And I do not go around pretending to have usurped your Master’s power of KNOWING the heart of ALL men and proclaiming it for all to see. Think a lot about yourself don’t you … how unreligious.

Instead of acting like a spoiled petulant child, why not try this? If you do not like the title … do not open it. If you do not like the content … just go away. Works for me every time!

When I want to comment on someone else’s article, I read the article and try to restrict my comments to the article, but I have found that this just doesn’t work well for me. Many do not want to do much more than shred articles seemingly only able to comment on key (flagged) words and manipulative sentence fragments. Go figure.

I don’t know about you, but I do not think or write one word at a time, piecemeal or in sentence fragments. Do you? I seldom use a thesaurus anymore (some though) because I just do not need to regularly.

When I answer or write, it comes from my heart and mind, not from a book that has been mistranslated and micro-inspected, word for word, fragment by fragment, for a thousand years by thousands of different people … whoa … seems we may have actually hit on the problem here. Is it really this simple, shame on you?

I can only surmise of course:  You guys picked up these counterproductive (IMO) and uncivil (IMO) habits as you shredded The Book for knowledge and, naturally enough, carried these habits over to your worldly interactions for the destruction of everything unbiblical. I do not enjoy religious articles because I have only one argument and you will pay no attention to it at all … I do NOT do Bible … I do, do life! and the people suffering everywhere under unnecessary oppression.

Truth be told, I use religious references in many articles not because I like to abuse religion (I do not care!), but because it is a perfect example of what mind control can achieve. I suppose we will argue this point, but no matter how much faith you have, no matter how much you believe … know this … It was never your choice to make, it was a decision made for you. Then you did all the rest yourself after the fact, been there, done that … sorry.

Mason, you seem to be packed with insights and all ... so where are your actual communication skills. There was of course the article and then the previous 5 comments ... and then there was your comment, sort of.

 I do not know anything about you and if left up to you (which of course it is), it seems unlikely I ever will. I don’t know if you are pro or anti religion. I don’t know if you are pro or anti SubGenius.

“ A True SubGenius, however, understands EVERYTHING, INSTANTLY upon exposure to the Word or even just the Face of Dobbs.”

“ScrubGenius is where you'll find chatty gossip, caustic humor, inner-church secrets and old-school rants by such long-time SubGenii as Rev. Stang, Rev. Susie the Floozie, Dr. Legume, etc”

As of now, I have been to www.subgenious.com exactly 1 time and unless some drastic change takes place in my life, I will die having been there only 1 time. I guess the simple concept of “I am my own (wo) man and nobody else’s” is just impossible to grasp for most. I am intelligent and my understanding comes from a lot of my own research and investigation, go figure. Instant geniuses now how quaint is that.

Here I go again starting with your title.   It's true, absolutely true. In fact, the world hates the Bible (but not as much as it hates the Church that wrote, preserved, and is the only authentic interpreter of the Bible).

That is of course if you understand what "the world" is.

Now get ready.....here comes the fun part!         What St. John in his Gosepl calls "the world"  is under the control of the Devil. The world hates the Chruch because the Church  teaches the truth about God, man and the created world. The secular, self-centered world hates the Church becasue she insists on the objectivity of truth, which btw is contained in the Holy Bible.

But the hostile world does not want to hear this. It hates it, distorts it, and rejects it. The world does not want to hear it so its leaders, atheists, materialists, and hedonists persecute the Chruch and reject the Holy Bible and those who stand up for it.

This is just my observation and a thought based upon that observation.

The last three of your articles include some mention that you are an Atheist. So why include that if you are so anxious to opt out of religious prattle? Don't you know that automatically sends up a flag and as you have already observed sets you up as "fair game"?

There must be some reason why you keep telling us you are an Atheist when you could have gotten your message across without revealing that bit of information about yourself.

This reminds me of Blessed Mother Theresa at a speech she gave at Harvard, 1982.

She said:

How wonderful it is. We all along, we all want...even the disbeliever wants to love God in some way or another. ANd where is God? How do we love God, whom we do not see? To make it easy for us, to help us to love, He makes Himself the hungry one, the naked one, the homeless one."

Her words hit home for even the Harvard intelligentsia had no choice but to acknowledge someone who has grasped real wisdom....that is love of God and love of our neighbor for His sake.  Now that is truly "doing life".

lulapilgrim, I love you too, but you are just as hardheaded as the rest ...

It just does not compute but I try. I will stop pointing out my neutrality if it will make you feel better; your God only knows how many times I have tried to get a very simple concept across to the religious enthusiasts … and all you can observe is some nefarious plot against what?

The article title should have indicated to you my feelings here. If that was insufficient to get MY VIEW across, there was the article itself, but as I have repeatedly told you in several articles to no avail at all so … I should have known better. I have repeatedly told you I am a FREE AGENT and that I DO NOT CARE what you believe or why you believe it (not any more anyway).

I have NEVER said there wasn’t wisdom in your Bible or that your Bible was intrinsically evil or bad or wrong … but that did not make any difference either. I have repeatedly asked you to talk like one of us normal people who have not immersed their whole life in the Good Book and dedicated themselves to justifying every word written by your God knows who as irrefutable truth. I thought it only required ones blind faith in God’s existence … and then in step the zealots with more and more restrictions...

And in closing, I will give you MY impression of what has been transpiring.

I stated my neutrality up front and explained why … I am an atheist and I do not CARE about YOUR beliefs and repeatedly told you that they were not MY beliefs … and all to no avail. What do you think prompted this article? It never would have occurred to me to write it in the first place if one of you guys even acknowledged that I am anything besides EVIL. If you are so mentally brainwashed inefficient to even grasp the CONCEPT that of the 7 billion people on this earth, not one (ME) can POSSIBLY have a difference in philosophe just because you do not want to and your Good Book tells you that you can’t..

Why can’t you guys take out YOUR frustrations and spread YOUR hate and prattle against those that openly profess to hate you and all you stand for (infidels that you are) … but one (ME) would think with all your serenity and enlightenment and understanding and love for your fellow man, you could find it in your hearts to stop pestering me with your faith and find a sole that actually deserves your contempt … because that is just about all you nice folk have bandied my way.

No comprehension here guys. You just don’t get it. You do not (seemingly) have a choice here because your propaganda machine NEVER EVER allowed you to question anything … anything biblical at all and that just does not portend well with me in the pursuit of the truth.

No truth lies behind a wall that cannot be penetrated, investigated, questioned, justified, or even proven to exist at all; not even one simple little question?

the only one spreading hate and frustration here is you.  And you are so self deceived you even dare call yourself neutral.   By no means are you neutral.  Your words are evidence against you. 

The truth we believe has most certainly been investigated (like no other) questioned (like no other) justified and proven.  The problem here doesn't lie with the evidence but in the depraved mind who will not accept it no matter how it's presented. 

I do not owe you an explanation for anything especially considering that you have done little besides twist and turn and manipulate everything I say … what good would it do anyway, you have always refused to believe anything at all I have said or any of the explanations I have tried to present ... and I have what options here?

I JUST WANTED YOU TO BELIEVE ME and go on. I have done many, many articles and it never made any difference before I made this pronouncement ... so when I started writing again, I THOUGHT, why not try the only other option available to me, the direct approach, surely that would work right, WRONG? FYI, one of the reasons I stopped writing this past year was because you and your ilk would not allow me any peace of mind or anything more or less what I am getting now. I forgot how miserable you good people are. Now I remember … and your nonsense will not influence me to quit again.

These are some of the things you could have done:

• You could have accepted the fact that I was Neutral and gone on,
• You could have read the articles and attempted an actual interchange,
• You could have commented on the (+/-) merits of the article,
• You could have told me I was just blowing smoke and then explained why (in English, not Bible),
• You could have but you didn’t do any of these things.

 These are the things you did:

• TELL ME what is wrong with me and how stupid and uninformed I AM,
• how much I HATE you and all you stand for,
• called me a liar and a fabricator at every chance,
• how I WANT to abandon babies in the wild and other ridiculousness,
• how much I WANT to crush Christendom (all by my uncaring self),
• how self-centered I AM caring for no one else besides myself and my (lack of your) faith
• basically, that I am evil  incarnate.

What were those options I had?

It has no bearing on my atheist proclamation and you KNOW it … because we have had most of this trash talk in the past on other articles and it was always the same. I know how religious persecutions are conducted and why … and you engaged in nothing else … I know you folks can be nice and pleasant, especially chatting amongst yourselves … but you are just too conceded, self-righteous, full of HATE and prejudices and consider yourselves humanly infallible and that well, I have a lot of problems with all this nonsense.

I told you folks in the very beginning that nothing I care about or my feelings would even be considered acceptable to you and I also told you that all my attempts to make one simple point … would not alter anything, would be meaningless to you and would be scorned … and I rest my case here. I refuse to pound my head against your hypocritical walls any more. You have convinced me of the futility of trying any more. I am done here so have a nice day.

 So do not come in here and accuse ME of performing all the malicious activities you folks are practicing ... because you are all hypocrites (IMO).

RIGHT, NEXT TIME I WILL JUST LIE OK just like you do and what then, we will be the best of friends? You naver gave me ANY options and you know ... I really don't care about that eithor any more.

YOU (and your ilk) have attacked my character, my integrity, my honesty, my views, my opinions, my intentions, my beliefs, my moral values, my knowledge, my big words, my articles (seemingly unread) and apparently my very existence. I cannot imagine what you would deny me if you actually knew anything at all about me, but it seems there is one thing you good people need to know to spread your trash talk … one stinking stupid little word that you apparently think is going to be the death of YOUR religion … ATHEIST. Yep by God, that is the only thing you need to know  … NEED to know … KNOW ... the only thing, how sad is that.

I on the other hand did not attack YOU or your pagan religion or your choice to believe whatever you want to, only your absolute blindness. I did not attack your character, your integrity, your honesty, your views, your opinions, your intentions, your beliefs, your moral values, your knowledge etc. … only your absolute blindness.

You tell me where the hate is in all of this … but of course we already know the answer … with me???

I take it back KFC, you are an idiot after all. I am pretty well pissed at your repeated stupidity. WHO investigated ... where is ANY empirical proof to substantiate your nonsense … and justified by whom? I will answer this one for you: There is no empirical data and as for the rest it is all done by You, your ilk and the ilk’s that came before you … that’s who. And after such a dazzling display of your open-mindedness, compassion or any other and thought inspiring genius … I am I am supposed to put stock in your ilk’s open-mindedness and compassion … NOT A CHANCE.

If you just want to spit shit which is all I have gotten, so be it. If when you continue … I will respond in kind … I am through trying to explain anything HONESTLY to you Yoyo’s anymore because … you do not actually care … AND I JUST CANNOT because YOU WILL NOT ALLOW IT … because you know all there is to know about everything there is to know about … all garnered from an antiquated document from the dawn of YOUR WORLD that tells you so in no uncertain terms.

PS. Sorry, I missed my depravity in my little rant above, I will try to be more careful in the future.

PSS. Did you know for instance (in the real world), Atheist is defined as a non-believer, a free thinker and a Humanist, but there is nary a mention of … (what and where was that list?) ones honesty, intentions, beliefs, moral values, knowledge, fortitude, big words, my articles, right or wrong or any of the other nonsense you want to slander me with (oops, mustn’t forget depravity). Must have come from The Good Book since that is where everything you have so much faith in, lies (pun intended).

PSSS. KFC, I would call your ATTENTION to the fact YOU came to MY ARTICLES and contaminated them with your gobbledygook. I wrote no religious stories, and only became boxed into all this absolute stupidity by your inability to eat, drink, sleep, breath and probably shit anything but BIBLICAL MYSTICISM. And because of this (all of this), you have absolutely NOTHING I desire or want, nor can will you offer me ANYTHING in the way of useful information sooo ..., it would make  make sense at this point (probably too much sense for you) ... so I will help you with this one too … JUST GO AWAY! I DO NOT CARE!

This is my disclaimer.  This is my opinion.  I could be totally wrong.

Here's my two cents.  I'm on JU everyday, but don't read a lot of new articles every day....sometimes I just pop in..but here goes.

I think the problems for you are twofold. 

First of all, I don't know how long you've been round here, if this is your first screen name, or one of many.  I'm going to assume you're truly new and probably don't understand some of JU's community quirks.  (People will correct me as they see fit.)

JU is fairly conservative when it comes to politics.  We have liberal-minded bloggers but they are scarce these days.  The few who have stuck around for the duration imo are smart, funny, quick witted, etc.  But, they don't post a whole lot.  They can disagree, slice and dice, AND be funny all at the same time.  I consider them JU liberals and I for one, love them!  (This does not necessarily include the die hard liberals who only come to JU to post and run, not really looking for back and forth.)

About two years ago, JU went brown and lost a lot of its "color."   Color as defined by me includes everyday life sort of bloggers, multi-political bloggers, writers, everything but gaming and technology type bloggers, etc.  There were some technical (format/consolidation) changes.  Some people didn't like it, so they left. 

From that point on, JU went from a very diversified base of bloggers, from all over the map politically and socially, with interesting and hot topics debated daily, to a group of people with similar interests and political views.  (Which is not a problem imo, but doesn't make it as vibrant, as colorful, as interesting.)

How is that the first of two problems? Because JU was once a hotbed of debate, (and when it came to politics liberals and conservatives squared off for days, weeks! on some topics....) and now is not, I believe people get a little giddy about a good debate.  It is boring to always agree, so when someone comes along (you) in all your "there is no God" and "not quite conservative" views, everyone wants a piece of you.  Which to you seems like dog piling I'm sure.

As I'm sure you're aware, each blogger has their own style/standard of response, some better than others.  How you choose to interact, or not, is up to you.

Part two of the problem, sorry I'm going to be frank here, is your delivery.  I've read several of your comments.  Personally I like the way your mind turns (though obviously I don't agree with it all).  I never know what you're going to say, how you'll respond, and to me THAT is what made JU so great and is missing now.  Dare I say it?  Diversity.  Blech.  I don't like to use words that have been hijacked by the culture, but there it is.

However, your insistence that the Christians on JU, put down their Christianity to communicate with you is ridiculous.  Would you pick up Christ just to converse with them?  No.  You don't get to decide what matters to people, anymore than they get to decide it for you.  Asking someone to drop what they consider the most important aspect of their lives, because you say so, is frankly very immature and conflicts with the more rational vein of your persona.

Accept it.  Ignore it.  Move on.

So back to your delivery.  You seem an intelligent person yet you use line crossed words to communicate derision, sarcasm, etc.  This smacks of someone who is either very young/immature (is your name Lucas?) or someone who believes he is infinitely superior to those to whom he communicates.  I've never seen either of those approaches work well here.

In short, your delivery is characterized in the first four letters of your screen name.  And last time I checked, while nice to have round, they aren't exactly essential to the conversation....lol

I hope your blogging experience here becomes more satisfactory.  I think JU needs diversity (ugh, again I said it!)  ... 

Wow, you guys got a lot down in the time it took me to respond.  And I was typin fast!! 

Tova, BoobzTwo has been around for quite awhile, although not prolific at writing in the past.  Over that time, I have found her to be very conservative on a fiscal basis (I would give her a 10 out of 10), and very libertarian on a social basis.  She does not get out of her pond much, but has been consistently writing articles for as long as I can remember (and I have been here over 6 years).

lately she has become more confrontational.  Perhaps as you noted, to fill the gap of lack of a liberal voice on JU (although she seems to be picking non-liberal issues to be confrontational about).

That being said, I think your overall analysis, outside the 2 points I raised above, is very accurate.  But instead of it being an unconscious method of writing, I think it is designed to evoke an emotional response to heat things up.  She knows what she is doing.

p.s. I cannot believe she is Lucas unless he is schizophrenic.

Thank you Tova especially for making this point.

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BTWO

Oh c'mon. Your neutrality? No sale. You trumpet your Atheist ideas and slam religion every chance you get.

2 examples of your so-called "simple concepts" attempting to slam religion.

Well this religious enthusiast says both of your statements are wrong, very wrong. I'll say more about this below.

Simple fact. Declaring your Atheism removes you from a neutral position. If you truly do not care about my religious beliefs you would not have slammed religion and faith as you did above with your false ideas.

 I did comment on the + side of the title. I responded agreeing with you. In case you missed it, I said that your title is true, absolutely true. In fact, the world hates the Bible.  (it was my comments that followed explaining "the world" that you called me "hardheaded" but did not refute.)

You're not only blowing smoke but repeating the Atheistic mantra when you claim that religion (and by religion I mean Christianity and specifically Catholicsm) is mind control and having faith and keeping it is a decision made for us.   

By faith we believe things …and that’s true even of you. But we’re not talking about human faith here rather of supernatural Faith which is a virtue and a great gift of God.  Now people believe not with emotion or feelings but with their mind. Belief is a mental conviction. So faith then is not an emotion nor is it of the senses. Faith is an intellectual admission that a certain thing is true because although we have not seen the reality ourselves , we reasonably admit that the one who has told us must be reasonably informed and not intending to deceive us.

True Christian faith cannot lead one into error. We prove that God has said a thing and believe because He said it. Doubt would be possible only could God be deceived or deceive mankind. But He could not. He knows all things and is Truth itself. Also He has given abundant external signs to confirm His revelation. We are certainly right to believe that true Christian faith is truth because He must be right.

But having true Christian faith doesn’t imply burying one’s head in the sand. Faith teaches a number of things which are above reason for the revealed truths of God are above human thought. While Faith teaches truths so profound to be above natural reason,  it never teaches anything which is opposed to sound and rational principles. Prove any given Catholic doctrine to violate correct principles of reason and I shall cease to believe in it at once.

You may follow what you think to be truth but how do you know it’s truth….is there no possibility of mistake? You accept ideas that a wise man has uttered, yet another wise man has denied them. You need not be afraid to sincerely seek truth, but you need be afraid of your own mental limitations. 

Man's high destiny is to go to God becasue man comes from God and belongs entirely to God. It is by right religion that we know love and serve God as He commands us to know, love and serve, Him. It is by religion then that we fulfill the end for which we were made, and so save our eternal soul.

Now as far as religion, time passes on and Atheists sleep through life as though it is a dream. It doesn’t matter a hill of beans that they are able to think out ideas just as valuable as the next person. Here it’s not a question of human faith, opinions or ideas. It’s a question of God’s revealed teachings and neither their ideas nor my ideas have any value if they contradict those. You owe a debt to God that Atheists do not pay in the way He rightly demands. If one refuses to pay earthly bills one is arrested and have to answer in court.  God is not foolish and will not be mocked. He does not give commandments for nothing. He cannot be escaped. Death arrests all of us and the one who neglects God’s just demands for religious worship and acknowledgment will have to answer for his conduct. Atheists have made no provision for the inevitable confrontation with Truth at their Particular Judgment.

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My apologies Boobz for assuming you're new and male!  lol  I should have looked at your profile.  You've been round JU longer than me.

Ah well. 

Tova7, I will have to read your comment in the morning ... the following is for Lulu and friends.

I am NEVER EVER talking about the perfectness of an ideology that can do or say no wrong (by decree). What in the world can I rebut with? You have predetermined the right and wrong of it … and that is it. So I stay outside this environment at all costs. This is where you are comfortable and completely protected … and I am not. I do not have any defense at all in there BECAUSE you are comparing ME with GOD or at least his words … and find me failing. Is ok

The things I discuss cannot be found in your bible (never found anyone living in there) where it is all fuzzy and perfect. Most people close down their shops, walk outside the door and enter a world where the TRUTH takes on new meanings implications and most do not care what YOU personally (or morally) think. Be as righteous as you need to be and never ever be wrong … but all your beliefs are meaningless to the two thugs waiting by your car. Maybe this will make sense: You are concerned with the soul and I am concerned with the person … works for me … wish it would work for you too?

I am ALWAYS discussing MAN’s laws … and you are ALWAYS talking GOD’s. Come on now; ME = ATHEIST = NO GOD … but you just keep trying to force me to defend myself against something I do not believe in … doesn’t that sound pretty stupid to you, TOO? If all you can do is filter out the humanity and insert your ideology … and cannot put anything in some real time today (like right now) perspective there is nothing I can do about it … but we will NOT be chatting much because this is just too much to ask for ... I suspect.

I do NOT study religious doctrine nor am I a Theology quick study. I do not read or study the bible (anymore). I do not believe in god … what am I missing?

Thanks Tova7

I made some errors obviously, but there is one thing I have not figured out. And that is the exactitude people seem to insist on here (took me a bit to figure out JU, sorry). It is not just the religious side (mostly) ... but pretty much across the board. I am often told that “Words have Meaning” but never seemed to be involved in those decisions … even though they were my articles and my words. I am not sure I belong here anymore because I write about THINGs involving people, not the morality of specific words or phrases.

For instance, I have been BoobzTwo well forever; don’t really care if it is good or bad, it just is. I do not place value on names like many seem to; Tova7 is just a different spelling for BoobzTwo in relevance. For me, it is the story and I just do not seem to be able to find much to be cheerful over right now, all things considered.

I am on permanent mental disability (jeez, think of all the joy this will bring me, whew): I have a very faulty short term memory. It is quite exasperating and requires a lot of concentration and often results in replications and such which seem to be defined as blathering or whatnot. I have tried to tell most that I prefer to try and stay pretty much on subject (but not why) … it just didn’t seem such a difficult thing? Every time we tangent which is almost with every sentence, I have to intentionally (yuck) brake my limited concentration and refocus elsewhere not an easy undertaking believe me. This is so annoying that I can (and have many times) written half of a sentence and completely lose focus and cannot finish it. Or have the perfect thought and never make it to the page at all.

And then those comments foist me into other avenues … It all soon becomes a maze of places and comments and I just cannot keep up. What I should do is just write my ‘stuff’ and just go on to the next article and let everyone comment as they see fit. I honestly want to discuss them … but end up going elsewhere, always. This syndrome seems to find any comments I make elsewhere as well and bang off we go … most cannot seem to stay with their articles either.

I am learning and getting better (it is painful and slow) … I just do not understand why so much hate and anger is bandied on my shoulders. As far as I am concerned there were no religious connotations in my articles (maybe one – I was aggravated) but we always end up discussing religion in some aspect or another and I am always attacking some ideal or another, go figure. If any of this makes sense to you, please fill me in. As strange as this may sound, I believe most of us are good respectable honest people … if it were not for the words that seem to require some ability or deviousness I do not yet possess, to use properly.

OK, done ‘whining’. It was nice to chat with someone who showed some consideration with a desire to help (salvage) my worthless arse, hehehe. Thanks … a lot. Michelle    May have been here a while (took a coupl of years off though) but know little more than placing my articles and getting out the umbrella.

How do you define hate?  Because I don't see the hate you're talking about here.

I'm sorry you have trouble focusing.  My youngest son also struggles with this and I've seen first hand how frustrating the world can be for him.  I wish I could offer you some suggestions, but we're still in the learning curve.

The only thing I've seen work for him (so far) is focusing on one topic, one thing, and sticking to it.  This usually requires me redirecting his attention over and over.  I tell him to ignore everything else no matter how titillating.

Sometimes it works.  Sometimes not.

Tova7

Lulu comment #8. “Here I go again starting with your title.   It's true, absolutely true. In fact, the world hates the Bible …” … the title referenced was “what is the truth” and the article had nothing at all to do with religion. … Or so I thought, silly me.

Lulu comment  #8: “But the hostile world does not want to hear this. It hates it, distorts it, and rejects it. The world does not want to hear it so its leaders, atheists, materialists, and hedonists persecute the Church and reject the Holy Bible and those who stand up for it.

May not be a direct attack on me here, but I think I have discovered where some of the HATE is coming from. Anyone who makes a statement like this cannot POSSIBLY have a grip on reality and there could not possibly be objectivity possible IMO.

Lulu comment #9:   “This is just my observation and a thought based upon that observation.”

“The last three of your articles include some mention that you are an Atheist. So why include that if you are so anxious to opt out of religious prattle? Don't you know that automatically sends up a flag and as you have already observed sets you up as "fair game"?”

“There must be some reason why you keep telling us you are an Atheist when you could have gotten your message across without revealing that bit of information about yourself.”

It is all true ... maybe this is another avenue of HATE? You got me … I am getting tired of patronizing them anymore and am writing this for YOUR benefit because you actually asked me something, how novel.

KFC comment #12: He quoted a comment I had made shown below.

KFC’s insight was … “the only one spreading hate and frustration here is you.  And you are so self-deceived you even dare call yourself neutral.   By no means are you neutral.  Your words are evidence against you. “

“The truth we believe has most certainly been investigated (like no other) questioned (like no other) justified and proven.  The problem here doesn't lie with the evidence but in the depraved mind who will not accept it no matter how it's presented”

What do you think … sounds like another avenue for hate …?

Look at the strange stuff in Lulu’s comment #19. Keep in mind when (yea, if) you read it and maybe you can find something in there besides HATE and a lot of meaningless stuff … I AM AN ATHEIST AFTER ALL,  and I think everyone knows …

I suppose you would have to like indigestion to wander around and look at some of their nonsense … and it does not matter what I say or not. I did not write any religious articles (well I was angry once). At first I tried to be honest and answer their ‘inquires’ thinking they were serious. Now I know better and will not have any more problems conversing with these ‘people’. Thanks for your help, it made a difference to me.

I see. 

This is my opinion based on personal interaction with these ladies here, and I also know one in real life and consider her a good friend.  They don't hate you.  In fact I would be willing to bet when they are down on their knees talking to God, they're mentioning you, and it is not out of hate. 

I read their words as an eagerness to debate.  But I know them, and of course you see it the other way. 

You say you researched some time ago and decided to become Atheist.  Just a suggestion, you could write an article or two about your findings, make it so no one can comment..and then when someone brings it up in future on other articles, you could give them a link to your research findings/articles and refuse to explain it all the time.  Or you could just blow it off entirely, ignoring all references to faith.  I dunno.

But, thanks for taking the time to explain your thoughts.  I appreciate it.