Smoothseas -

That was referring to Bahu's post and the general content of all the finger-pointing going on following the massacre.

Of course, all of us are the product of millions of experiences in the context of our genetic make-up.  He appears to have had both a defective genetic make-up and lots of bad experiences.

That you can't point a finger at any individuals (other than the shooter) has always been the case and always will be.  Accomplices to and co-conspirators in a crime there may be, but they are also individuals, not ideas and certainly not a 'climate', unless you live in the world of repugnant moral relativism presently occupied by the craven & shameful left.  The demonization of those who disagree as 'enemies of civil society' (only so as the self-designated 'good people' define them, of course) is a time-honored tactic of those who would impose their will on others.

Ah, but that's just it.  Only one side is attempting to publicly judge a group (rather than individuals).  They want to effectively indict a class of people (whom they define), and certain individuals explicitly, as accessories to murder.  To 'deftly pin this on them'.  There's a difference between that and my observation & assessment of their behavior.  I'm not attempting to smear them with something they had nothing to do with.  I'm voicing my opinion about the people actually doing the smearing, not attempting to stifle their political beliefs or speech through guilt by totally unfounded (and irrational) association.

You're being a bit obsequious.  They are doing more than simply 'speaking their mind' - they are trumpeting accusations of accessory to murder and advocating stifling the political speech of completely innocent people, people who had nothing whatsoever to do with an unspeakable act of violence by a deranged man, but who simply disagree with them.  The political equivalent of yelling 'Fire' in a crowded theater, to borrow a metaphor they love to use as justification for their calls to stifle conservative talk radio, among other things.  A very large number of people on the left are doing so, making them by definition a 'group'.  But I'm not denouncing anyone who hasn't made such public accusations.  And the ghouls making the unfounded accusations have the right to 'speak their minds' - I'm not calling for limits on their speech or any other right, rights I once took an oath to defend.

Yes, left-wing extremists said horrible things about Bush, but they only came from fringe people. They didn't come from left-wing politicians and left-wing media people. They didn't come from the people who the fringe people listen to.

Roger Ailes as much as admitted that people on his network have been going too far.

Better go back and re-read your Olbermann and matthews playbook.  You will find that you are flat out wrong. Roger Ailes only said that they were being too opinionated - not that they were calling for violence like Matthews and Olbermann and the rest of the left does.  You are 100% wrong - and consistent and petty since you cannot stand to read dissent.

You just cannot ban it when it is not your blog.

And #2 - I challenge you.  To find any incident from any rightwing person you insinuate (or Sheriff Dubnick) calling for violence on the left.  Go ahead and print it if you dare.  Disagreeing and calling someone stupid is not calling for their death.  The latter is reserved for the lunatics at du.org, the Puffington Host ("She is Dead to me"), moron.org and of course Michael Moron.org

The full context of his remarks (emphasis mine):

In no way does that imply he agrees with the MSM narrative.  He was just telling 'his guys' to avoid taking the bait.

Was surfing the web checking out the temperature of stuff and I'm astonished to find liberals still clinging to the notion that 'right wing vitriol' or 'a climate of right wing hate' is somehow responsible for this tragedy. They are about as ginned up as I've ever seen them with this belief. I guess its ok for them to have their beliefs no matter how fantastic or ridiculous, but a child was murdered there, so it is rather detestable for them to continue carrying on like this attempting to blame the American right. Its a tremendous insult.

They are doubling down.  The reason the heat is still up is because most are not buying it.  Expect it to continue even as those in power get heat from regular people to can it since their position is totally unsupportable.  I read one blog where the author called it "well oiled" given how quickly the meme started.  I think that is a good term for it.  But at the same time, it is tired and over used.  Unlike 98, this time the right is hitting back and hitting back hard - with facts!  Showing that when identifiable, the perpetrators are almost always leftists, not right wing.

Which is a restriction on the first amendment.  And while not new, a direct knee jerk to the talking points.  There is Slaughter as well.  The list grows longer by the hour. 

Again, when you made the statement, you were technically correct in saying "to this point".  However, as you can see now, the inevitability of the further calls for removing our freedoms was not an "if", but just a "when".

can;'t stand the heat?  Get out of the kitchen.  The attacks on members of congress is far lower (rate wise) then the attacks on a citizen in a big city.  And they are SUPPOSED to be PROTECTING us.

Again, except in the case of McCain/Feingold.  So I do not trust them to rule in favor of any of our rights.  The only way to win the game is to not play as they say, and in the case of rights, the only way to ensure them is to make sure that congress does not start to remove them.

Don't forget Matthew's tingling legs.

If Obama wants to "heal' or console me he can resign and get on a plane back to Kenya or Indonesia or wherever he actually comes from.

I do not trust politicians either, but I have faith in our system. I have seen this kind of thing over and over and over. 

Yeah the theatrics were apparent. And it wasn't like the partisans were interspersed here and there, it must have been the whole place. Normal people might greet Eric Holder with a smattering of polite applause, but nothing as thunderous as what we saw. I'm glad Obama took a few seconds to talk about the victims.