GFWL - LOL what a joke.

Is it possible to have the game fully Impulse integrated (which isn't even finished yet) AND full steamworked up? I have no clue but if so, then good competition would make that a more realistic reality right?

I don't think its really the customer's job to make that happen though is it?

I mean, if you buy it/attach it whatever to Impulse you use reactorthingy-ma-bob and if you buy it from steam then you use Steamworks. I don't know how realistic that is for a publisher to a) want to do or 2) actualy are capable of doing it.

Clearly the 'MW2 situation' is not useful.

I find it hilarious that no one seems to know that the original supcom also came out on xbox and had no effect at all on the PC version.

Ah come on, you don't do justice to supcom if do think that those were the things which made the game a great game. Both up-front and rate-based economy systems can result in a great game and the removal of that hilariously small resource storage limit is a big step in the right direction to make the game less about mechanical skill and more about thinking. The manual assigning of engineers was so tedious - even worse then the manual assigning of workers in starcraft.

Stripping out much if what made TA and SupCom unique is genuinely confusing.  With Starcraft 2 and C&C4 due in the near future, you would think they'd want to remain as different from them as possible.  As it is, many people are going to see three sci-fi RTS' get released in the same time frame.  SC2 and C&C4 have large fanbases (C&C I have no idea why, as it's gone steadily downhill since Generals and backed by EA's nonexistant support), and will both do well.  SupCom2 will get left in the dust, and I hate to say it, but rightly so from the sound of it so far.  The funny part is despite signing on with Steamworks to reduce piracy, it will still have the highest pirated to purchased ratio of the three.  SquareEnix is really out of touch with PC gaming if they think Steamworks protection cannot be cracked.

If I read correctly on the Starcraft webpage during the integration with Activision, Blizz still has full control over everything they produce. Wether or not this means anything is up to you.

Wow you guys really are such a bunch of pessimists huh?

Wow the hate toward the new economy mdoel of Supcom 2 is rather high in here. A community member of Gaspowered Games forum joined Supcom 2, His handler name is Sorian and he is famous for creating a very competitive like ranked AI for supcom and forged alliance, say that the economy wasn't 'dumbed' down as most people here claim it to be. He even play it and said that the speed is overally the same as supcom if not exact same.

One of the bigggest reason why they dropped the pay as you go model was that you could run into a situation where everything was stalling and the player wasn't aware of it or doing anything about it. This was really bad in original vanilla Supcom where you would have -10,000 energy drain and still get enough shield to block half of the incoming damage and regen at once. They fix that by giving it a setup time in forged alliance.

http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?t=22908

http://soriandev.blogspot.com/

http://soriandev.blogspot.com/2009/09/hard-to-keep-quiet.html especially this one. BTW he is NOT paid to say this at all, other than fixing the bugs in an upcoming game.

I am quite curious how you can make any conclusions about tactics at all without having played that game or even seen footage of a real match.

I will agree that sorian AI still does has it own weakness being an AI and all.

I agree with thebigone as you do not even have the entire raw dps/stat data from video. Most of the video/trailer they present for review/whatever are often 'staged' to show case what can happen however not practically. Would you really sit around for 15 min so you can have 50 experimentals duking it out on seton's clutch? The wrecks in the middle of seton's clutch was based off a review battle just an interesting trivial.

For example, starcraft 2 trailer where there are so many zergs it wasn't NOT even humanly possible to create a such horde and have one group of defender blasting away at them non-stop for 5 min without suffering a loss. There was a dev posting on the battle.net forum confirming that battle showed in the video was purely staged and not possible in a 1 vs 1 match.

Thrawn do you even know that demigod and Supcom 2 is the same engine and in demigod you can zoom very far out. Let me look for a picture where you can see that.

http://www.supremecommander-alliance.com/fileadmin/images/SupCom/SupCom_2/Galerie_Screenshots/169_supremecommander2_zoom_debarquement_pc_060209_hr.mp4_000285071_01.jpg

http://www.supremecommander-alliance.com/fileadmin/images/SupCom/SupCom_2/Galerie_Screenshots/cybranacu1.jpg

Compare the distance between the ACU and the other picture. It has already been confirmed there are unique set of sounds involving strategic mode view. From the all in one thread made by Ryuken. In the following video go to 3:23 you will see airplanes fighting it out zoomed out and you barely can see the bullets/lasers whatever hitting each other.

[01/18/10] Gamespot kicks off this week's coverage with a new preview, new revelations: reclaimable underwater ship wreckage, Strategic mode gets its own sounds and Strategic mode also gets automated number grouping (next to the usual CTRL+number which you can still perform here). It also features a video monologue by Chris Taylor which shows some neat new footage of the game. From those scenes we can deduce that all regular air transports unload troops by teleporting them on the battlefield. Of course we don't know yet whether the experimental transports will do the same.

For tactics let just wait and see if they did pulled it off.

Well keep in mind that so far they only have show us what maybe 5 maps? Out of how many in the full game? In the game demigod, with the same game engine, has map that even with super speed boost can take forever to get around but then again it is not a rts so. I will assume that at least mininum the game engine CAN handle bigger map. If you want bigger scale rts I am sure there are 'plenty' of other option that suit your style thrawn, no offensive meant.

Example of demigod large map are mandala, zikurat, and the bothers. Mandala true size is not really represent by that picture because it has so many lanes and towers. Even with 5 vs 1 it would take at least maybe 20 mins to clear out one side of map to push to the fortress, demigod's HQ if you will.

i mean no disrepect to sorian, his AIs were tremendous. but FA is just too deep and complex and awesome to code an adequate AI for. you could never teach an AI the intricacies of micro or strategising in supcom. just impossible. ironically i think if the AI in supcom 2 is really good, its because supcom 2 isn't a very good game.