One thing we need to get rid of is "Insurgency" . The Klingons get it. why i dont know, and when they research it the feds get random relentless dominion/cardassian attacks. I know it is very late game that it happens, but still the thought of dominion rebels for the klingons. I much rather would see the combined dominion as pirate raiders.

Sorry for the team color problems. What had happened was in previous releases of the mod we used older entitys. and when the specular and team color maps were swapped for sins our code still used the original setups so when we swapped out it did exactly what it is doing now. Team colors bleeding through. We couldnt figure out why it did that. So we left our textures the "old" standard. Now the mod is using up to date entitys so guess what. You see the result. I tried to fix it before the release, but i have no reliable net to send my progress. I get booted every 5 minutes. So i cant upload anything. My build of the mod is fixed.

You guys might want to disable "ship highlight filtering". Along with all team colors until we get this fixed. Ship highlight filtering makes ships brighter the further you zoom away, but the mod doesnt have that feature incorporated. So needless to say you get strange ship lighting problems. Disable it.

Now that Shimmer and crew have the gameplay aspect down i can now start working on fixing the art in the mod for the 0.4 0.5 updates.

add it as an enchancement request, i'm not going to remember down the road

we tried this already and couldn't quite get it to work properly, simply becuase abilities loose the directional aspect when firing. Example, points that only fire fwd will also fire aft (bad for weapons, great for AOE)

We have not ruled it out yet, but have not decided to continue down this path either, so offically its in limbo

not really sure i understand your comment. if anything the feds have defiant pulse tech from romulans. plus the klingons were in place before the defiant was added. for the use of simplicity we kept the same format

Anyone got an answer for me?

Well i have dl it 2x.Could it be the programs I am extracting with.I cant hardly play cause the only way to see what ships are what is to either put my mouse over it or zoom all the way in they are all just black as well as all the flags.

Okay, having played both the Fed and the Klingons with AI on the hardest setting, I have to say: awesome job on the AI -  they do a much better job managing resources and strategy than on other mods I've seen, where they tend to get lost in research and build bad ships.  On the other hand, the Feds still have an unmitigated advantage.  I hate to nit-pick, but it's pretty clear that the Feds are overpowered compared to the Klingons in the existing release.

I've tried every pro-Klingon strategy discussed on here, and it just doesn't cut the mustard.  B'Rels combined with some high-HP ships like the Vor'Cha still don't stand up against a ballanced Fed fleet of similar size (either in number or supply).  The B'Rels get creamed by the Fed starship's 360 degree firing arc pretty fast (especially if Akiras are involved), and then it's just a slow wait for the incredibly low-damage Vor'Chas to have their SP/HP drained to zero.  If you doubt this, just wait until you see the B'Rels targeting something, then have it run away.  The B'Rels follow, and everybody following beside them get pot shots until there are no more B'Rels.  I've tried mixing up the fleet composition with other cruisiers, and it just doesn't work when the Fed starships are a dime a dozen with a better ability to mix it up.

The whole notion of long B'Rel bombing runs works great on structures, but not so well on ships.  Again, if you've got a comparable number/supply of Fed ships, the B'Rels get ceamed. 

The only advantage I've seen with the Klingons is that their entrenchment Torpedo Cruiser does 200 DPS, while the Fed got stuck with the sissy Advent version that does 1/10 that.  That Torpedo Cruiser can seriously screw up a space station, but only when there are no starships around to knock the tar out of it in the two seconds it takes to kill it.

Further, the Feds get an unfair advantage in Defiant spamming.  The blasted things are dirt cheap and only take 14 supply (about the same as an Akira).  The AI doesn't do this, but every savvy player will.  The Defiants don't have much higher HP/SP than an Akira, but they do more damage than any other ship in the game besides the top Klingon Cap Ship.  This is completely unfair, as you just top out your # of cap ship crews, waltz into somebody's system with a cheap Defiant fleet, and blow them away.  10-15 defiants can kill about a hundred Klingon cruisers without more than a couple losses, and they're much faster to replenish.

I hate to sound too critical - I'm honestly impressed with this mod; it's better than any I've seen.  I just hope the Klingons get brought up to par in the patch (or the Feds get down to their level).

I just had a thought.

Would it be possible to switch wich faction had Insurgency, and possibly have the rebel ships be hidden (ie, no buildable) maquis ships.

thats really a good idea to limit ships... also negvars vorchas intrepids and akiras...

It was our intention, or at least mine from the beginning to limit the amount of "Elite" units (cap ship slot items) that can be on the map at any given time. The balancing has changed and yes we can build alot more elites than what i originally planned. If i had my way there would be only 2 defiants on the map max. 3 galaxy's and only 1 soveriegn. the rest of the fleet would be made up of the "fodder" ships.

The sov is supposed to be more advanced than the defiant. Hence far more shield, weapons, and armor. Its supposed to be one of the feds "borg killers" The defiant was supposed to be a prototype escort class warship, but also a pure borg killer (it didnt fair too well vs the one cube it did encounter) 5 defiants would be overkill. They are like the sov supposed to be very expensive to build hence the rarity. We put them both at the end of the tech trees to emphesis this. We can also up the fleet supply to limit thier numbers as well. Regardless the balancing of the mod is what shimmer is in charge of. I am just building the models

Say "Romulan" in the empire and expect half a dozen blades at your throat two seconds later.

They prefer Rihannsu.

the nebula's upper pod was  modular,  during the dominion war it was modified  to support more weapons..  altho the galaxy should still support more firepower over the full 360 spread.. a nebula would have more forward firepower..  overall they should be nearly compairable in a slug fest..  at least at war time..

During peace..  the Nebs are a science vessel

While the defiant is still fresh in mind, didn't they also come equipped with cloaking devices?

Or did you decide not to include that because of the issues you were having with cloaking?

Or just for balance reasons?