^But decreases stability (until it's fixed)

Loved the Elemental screenshot

I completely missed the Fallout 3 bobble head in the pic of Jeff first time around.

Helloooo?

What they are saying is that how long it takes to make a match has nothing to do with the game or its technology but strictly the number of players.

What do you expect them to do? Wave a magic wand? Try getting an auto matched dota game going. oh wait, you can't.

We need skirmish options.  I should be able to set the mode, number of players, and map to narrow down the results.  If suitable partners can't be found quickly, I should get a prompt showing the game information I'm about to be entered into where I can choose if it's OK.

100k and 5 million makes no difference. Once you reach the treshhold of about 5k simultaneous users, a single entity (here a player) becomes unaware of the difference between 5k and 50k simultaneous users.

Battleforge has 3k people online at most during peak with at most 1k playing PvP. It takes less than 30s to get a random 2v2 going.

DoW 2 certainly does not have more than 5-6k simulatenous users either, out of peak times, it still takes less than a minute for random 3v3.

Phenomic and Relic aren't Blizzrad.

Stop taking whatever Frogboy says as granted and pure truth. Always take it with a grain of salt because no matter how much he wants to be honest, he is still here to promote Demigod.

It IS a problem with their matchmaking technology it's taking so long, not with the number of users. The way they constructed it makes number of users matter, not the other way around. They were so concentrated on diminishing lag that trying to figure the best possible options out of thousands takes too long. Testing ping for hundred of users is a a nightmare. Other games do not care about the latency, they just match you with your ELO and that's it. If you are a european playing during US peak time, you'll almost never get a patnehon match within 2min because of this. The game will try to match US players with US players first.

And it does not matter if Diablo II first Multiplayer experience was flakey. Demigod does NOT compete with first hours of Diablo II, it's competing with today's Battle.net, today's Battleforeg servers and today's DoW 2 matchmaking.

Stop making up excuses for them, it's pathetic.

Yes, Stardock and GPG are doing their best, yes it will be much better in the days to come, but it doesn't change the fact OTHER games are working perfectly fine RIGHT NOW and have been for a while now.

I never had any problem with DG, I used to be an IT Admin, so I know how to configure my computer and router, but little joe in his home does not, does not care to learn it and even less care about Frogboy's explanations about anything, let alone even know about the forums. Poor Joe launches game, it doesn't work or feels like an eternity, logs off and goes to play or do something else, never coming back.

I'm playing little Joe here, not the IT admin. A little Joe with some Internet knowledge will see WC3 or DoW 2 working fine and DG not and ask what the hell is happening. And little joe is not happy with just "not enough users online". In fact, he'll take it as "Oh I see, noone's playing because the game sucks, should have known it, won't buy Stardock games anymore, back to X game that's working correctly then".

Again, I never had a problem, but others do and "not enough users online" does not cut it as an answer for anyone, especially one without much bknowledge like our little Joe.

I'm not trying to bash Froboy or Stardock or GPG, I know how much it sucks to develop games on PC with so many different hardwares and softwares out in the world, but do you seriously think the customer lambda buying the game cares about that? No,he does not, he just wants to play and quickly because time is money.

And so what? People will see noone is buying her cookies because they taste like crap and go buy the ones from the store. Do you think people will show sympathy just because she is new to the business? Please, real life is not a fairy tale.

We must not be living in the same world.

To be honest I used to like these updates but in a way I feel like I am sort of getting a little jaded.  When the game first came out there were problems and I thought, "It's ok, they will fix them soon" and as I saw the updates coming I thought this should be fixed in no time.  Now though, weeks later it seems that the updates are becoming more and more defensive and excuse like.  I understand that there are not as many users, but if that is the limiting factor then I might as well cash in my chips now because if the system is limited due to that reason then no one is ever going to want to join because it will be a "I'll wait until there are enough players before I start playing Demigod" mentality and then everyone will sit on their hands NOT buying the game.

I think the game is great, I just cannot seem to get Pantheon to work very well, or skirmish for that matter and there are only ever like 10 games total in custom (sometimes there are more but maybe not at the times I play) and a lot of them are EU or US West (I am East).

I guess you can keep the updates coming, but please make improvements fast and send out the coupons already so we can try and get our friends playing.

Same thing, refer to my answer.

People WILL compare and go for the best bang for their buck.

It's like asking a woman not to compare her different lovers. She shouldn't, but she will regardless of how much you wish she didn't and pick the best.

Okay.  Let them.  This is really a silly convorsation.  Stardock doesn't have a magic "Be better than Blizzard" button.  If you don't like it, if you want to play something else, I have news for you, you can do it!  I promise that Stardock knows that they're not Blizzard.  They're working on it.  If they aren't doing well enough for you, and you want to play another game, do it, and quit bugging us.

We should be on top of the devs, get them to fix things we think should be fixed, make recommendations, etc.  But arguing about what you think it should or shouldn't compare to is worthless.  Bottom line:  You want to play or you don't.  If you do, have fun, give the devs productive input.  If not, please go away.

Ok, don't compare it to battle.net and blizzard's games. Compare it with DoW2 mp. It works fine and has great matchmaking options. No big problems that i know of...

Do you really know everyone who will play or is playing demigod? Do you really? really really? No I didn't think so.