sounds good, but how would you get it to work gameplay wise? would it be a renting system? would it be like a tribute? would doing so increase the other players opinion of you? can fleets or ships be given to allies for the duration of a battle, then returned afterwards? what does tributing ships do for you, should it be a trade? how does giving a cap to someone with not enough fleet supply work? etc etc

i dont mind the idea, im just curious about how people intend to overcome these ideas etc?

Thrill me! =D

I'll rather be fishin in northen wi then bein Ai in Sins.

i think ruawahoo2's idea is very interesting

it would certainly streamline things considerably

and it even adds a possibility of spy missions added - find out what fleets they have preset and design counters, learn when they building, and brace yourself

i always thought that espionage and so on was very underrepresented in SINS

i know it would be difficult to implement, but it would certainly be interesting

once again though, my hat goes off to ruawahoo2, your idea is very impressive sir

I wrote a post about that, but I think it's worth mentionning it here.

2 bugs

TEC starbases

When you queue ships, the "ship population remaining box" won't decrease until the ship is actually built...

Ex : if you have 20 ships population to be built and queue a scout frigate (5 pop i think) it stays, to 20

when doing it from a starbase and decrease only when ship is built.

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A.I. Behavior while fighting a enemy fleet (being totally accapared by the single trade ship that come along)

Fleet (allied and enemy) will stop fighting against each others when they see a trade ship / refinery ship / scout/navigator/seeker

ship.

I mean... In an epic battle where the survival of our world depend, fleets should not consider those "no threat" ships more

than the actual 200 ships that they were fighting 2 seconds ago.

I mean... What's the correct thought of the good general (the one that lives for a long time)

1 -  Kill them all !

2 - Let's stop fighting, I just seen a trade ship .... We will crush their economy muhahahaha !!! (While loosing

ships because enemy fleet continue to hit your back while you try to crush the ship that you don't care at all, but that A.I. seems

to find very important. )  ...

I don't think a trade ship or any exploration ship should be worth A.I. attention in middle of a fight against a more important threat.

To illustrate a last time...

Fighting 2 caps. ships, 4 siege frigate, 10 light frigates and 4 heavy cruisers that come to kill me should be more important than

killing a single civilian ship (or exploration ship).

Currently, those unarmed "not a threat at all" ships are more important to A.I. than the real threat.

1. AI better pathfinding

2. AI better assessment of target threat i.e. capital ships are more dangerous than trade ships

3. AI better use of resources. I oftentimes find that it sets up a 'bubble defense', strenghtening the borders but leaving the inner planets rather undeveloped/undefended. At the same time it is top 1 in the 'amount of credits/metal/crystal' chart. by a laaarge margin. Players usually spend their credits as soon as it can pay  for an upgrade/structure/tech/ship.

4. AI better placement of objects. Right now I consistently see it placing starbases on the path to the star, even though it has a jump path to one of my planets. And even though the system has a single star. If you keep this behaviour, at least make sure the AI gets the starbse 'auxiliary government' upgrade to make things harder.

5. capital ship balancing, namely the Vasari Egg is OP. All weak capital ships should be looked into, so that all 5 caps are actually valuable additions to your fleet.

6. faster build rate in carriers.

7. top speed / turning upgrade tech for fleets. Maybe a jump calculation accel too, but this last tech could be for a single race.

When you give ships a move order I want them to make a 180 turn in place instead of turning in a huge arc through visible minefields.

Or just avoid minefields unless the minefield is the destination of the move order.

wow, talk about the use of paragraph spaces

I'm done with analogies.

At least for now...

For pirates, I suppose it could be left as is, but even if their goal is to collect bounty, they should be reacting to a threat

before anything else...

I mean, if in a pirate mind, Bounty is the most important thing in all universe,

because bounty is credit to spend on pirates flag, pirates ships, pirates parrots/monkeys and rhum....

The trade ship is worth a lot in a mind pirate, but not at the expense of some ship because

they decide to turn back to a imminent threat (player bashing on them) .

Basically, I think that it should be the same for all the whole I.A. (Trade ships are still important to destroy, but

enemy fleet is something you should always consider first (surviving is always more important))

Anyway, I'm not bugging anyone anymore with that .

I think that if staff come across this thread, this will be seen

and they will decide how to deal with that *crossing fingers*

64bit versions please.

This an 4X/RTS game after all.

I've seen games where you can offer control of ships, no problem.

Essentially, they can give them orders - you can also choose to give them orders if you wish, but the UI indicates that they're A: currently shared and B: Executing his orders (if any), so unless he's about to do something monumentally stupid, you'd leave the things alone.

Giving ships would probably count towards his fleet supply much as Dominating ships does at the moment - indeed, I believe it will simply drop you into negative supply (Can't build any more until it gets positive again through losses or research) until matters rectify themselves.

I agree with the sell and buy x but most of the games I have played, including the AOE, it seems that 100 is a standard number to sell or buy

lets say you need something pronto (like a ship (i.e. you press shift + click but only get 4 ships when you wanted 5 because you are 50 crystal short, or whatever) or to deploy a starbase)

pronto

also, for making tributes, rather than clicking. i know its usually not alot, but at least the frame work could be there?

there are also times when i dont want to spend the full 400-500 credits on 100 of something when i only need half of that