I agree with what both of you are saying it seems arbitrary so maybe last hitting isn't an answer but right now it just seems like there isn't much depth other than just use your spells + attack other characters, I am sure that will be a lot better in the next beta just all I am saying is I wish there was more of a premium on the placing of normal attacks or something that gave the game more depth.  I am  sure there already are but maybe it is just me but right now it kinda feels like your control of your Demigod isn't the premium but rather positioning and timing.  I don't know I could totally be wrong I just think what will make this game really fun are abilities like Rook's rock roll and the Torchbearers novas which make you have to aim at them and not just point and click.  Adding more cool abilities like that adds more skill to the game by making you have to aim to hit people and giving them chances to juke and dodge.  What do you guys think?

2) Do you mean demigod kills only award the person that performed the killing strike? Because I'm pretty sure it's not like that at the moment. I've seen my xp bar move up visibly when being near a demigod kill, despite not hitting the demigod at all.

Yeah I haven't played rook in a while since the first days the beta came out I have been busy until lately but that was just for sake of an example.  Anyways yeah the spirit of what I am saying remains the same.  Like you said timing the rolling of Rooks boulder roll is hard to hit people with and that is what I mean.  I like this aspect fo the game and I hope with the coming of beta 2 there will be more spells that have some form of "risk" as you put it.  I am liking the ideas with these kind of spells so far hopefully in this new beta it will expand even more.

Last hitting is stupid because I remember range guys would always kill the guys with like no health left and get all the gold. No I think it should be split between all nearby players. Maybe though if u do the mopst damage u get the most gold or expierence.

That is what makes last hitting dynamic though, the range I mean.  Between range and melee characters it becomes a lot more about positioning and makes you have to worry about fake threatening people and being in the right place so ranged character don't harass you while you try to stay near creeps.  I kind of like the idea that maybe gold can be split by damage done that sounds interesting and kind of plays along with the idea someone talked about earlier that dealt with not overkilling creeps.  Maybe creep kills equaling different gold would be good, also do you get gold for killing opposing heroes because I know for sure you get exp.

A team based game should promote team based gameplay.  Last hitting is counterproductive to team based gameplay because it introduces competition within the team.  The true goal of pushing back the enemy falls to the wayside of personal selfishness where you just need to get all the last kills.  People don't work together as well because they are more concerned with stealing kills than pushing back the enemy.  Then you have teammates getting mad at each other because they're stealing kills, so you end up with a bunch of selfish people placing their character above the rest of the team and a slowly festering feeling of animosity tearing the team apart from the inside.

Not my idea of fun.

slipperySnake, if you kill lots of creeps you will get lots of money, no need for last hitting in that. A giant gives around 650 Gold or so, split equally to all those who are nearby.

Yeah your probably right we should wait for beta 2 to play the real game with real mechinics before we start talking about it.  This thread somehow got diluted.  Anyways at some point along the way we were talking about a map editor.  What do you guys think about this and has anyone heard any news of something like this.  I mean I know they said there will certainly be professional content but what about a map editor and user content.  Lets talk about that instead.

Lets

I'd personally love to see a map editer. Not for myself, I'm not really into making my own maps/mods. I enjoy playing other peoples

Makes sense to me

That is kind of what I am talking about.  I wouldn't pretend to know what the requirements are for this kind of map editor and it surely wouldn't be as simple as Warcraft 3 but I think TheBigOne is right, for games like CounterStrike the maps are 3d and can be highly textured.  I also share the concern that creating maps will take a lot of money are be extremely hard to get into.  I know that making maps will not be easy but if there could be some kind of editor for demigod maps or just if the put out templates for map construction and directions it would be really a great thing. 

These two points are important, and I agree with them.  Having a Ladder in Demigod that is based off individual records is plain stupid.  The reason is because more so than any other game, Demigod is based on the people on your team.  A ladder system has no purpose in this game.  Even a stat tracking system, although  useful, is still useless because it won't be balanced among the differing heroes.  For example, a Torch Bearer should not be Deathblowing as many heroes as Unclean Beast.  A ladder system as it stands is an obsolete way to measure a person's accomplishments with Demigod.  Rather, it would be much more intresting if you could "link" stats to a team.  Furthermore, you could extend this idea and allow players to register premade teams.  When these teams play, their stats as a whole are kept.  For me, this would be an awesome addition to this game as I am sure I will have around 5 friends that will play this game.  You can make teams for each map/hero limit.  I think tracking stats through a team like kills/deaths/gold/time played/games won/games lost/ect. would be much more accurate of people's skill levels and promote the team based play needed for Demigod.  If you start basing ladder rank on kills, I think it just takes away from what the game is supposed to accomplish.